Posts by Steve Egner

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"Left Behind" Series Gets Left Behind

by Stephanus in

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it seems that the writers of the scarey vision of the apocalypse that the left behind series creates aren't happy about alternative views of what the book of revelation means.

tyndale house, which publishes the left behind books, are publishing a new series of fiction based on revelation, this time giving the preterist view an airing.

preterism assumes that most of the events of revelation happened in the first century.

Steve Egner

jws,

"Come the Rapture, can I have your car?"

That's rich. If I can't find that one, I may just have to print it myself... Excellent banner material, too.

Steve

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"Left Behind" Series Gets Left Behind

by Stephanus in

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friends

it seems that the writers of the scarey vision of the apocalypse that the left behind series creates aren't happy about alternative views of what the book of revelation means.

tyndale house, which publishes the left behind books, are publishing a new series of fiction based on revelation, this time giving the preterist view an airing.

preterism assumes that most of the events of revelation happened in the first century.

Many evangelical Christians in our area seem to regard the "Left Behind" series as an extension of scripture. The rapture dogma, as the books describe, definitely cultivates an exclusive mind-set, an "us and them" mentality.

Having "Left Behind" that same mental attitude after leaving the J. Witlesses, I can't be too critical of them, but it's nice to hear that the authors are pissed off. That's exactly the attitude I would expect from those who consider their words to be the next best thing to inspired. We've had some interesting relations with members of the Baptist church behind our home. Sayings like "In case of rapture, this car will be unmanned!" and, "If you don't believe in God, you'd better hope you're right!" are commonly seen on their shirts and bumper stickers.

I'm thinking of displaying a banner, readable from the church, on the back of my home:

AFTER THE RAPTURE, PARTY AT MY HOUSE!

Steve

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Best turkey recipe?

by bebu in

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here's one i've used for years.

i only urge caution if your oven fluctuates or is unreliable in temperature, or if you think the power will go out for some reason during the course of baking.

take your bird, get it all ready to roast (stuff it just before you are prepared to bake it).

Steve Egner

Here's another vote for smokin'!

Before the bird goes in, I quarter up about a dozen oranges. Pack them tightly into the gut, and wire the legs shut if necessary.

After a slow (10-12 hour) smoke, the bird is ready. The skin will be a dark, rich brown, and the meat will be moist throughout. The oranges impart a delicious flavor to most of the white meat.

Steve

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Death with Dignity

by onacruse in

i've presented myself on this db with a strong inclination that there is such a thing a death with dignity, including my expressed (and still resolved) determination to refuse a blood transfusion (or any other organ or fluid implant from another human being) to prolong my life (for reasons that have nothing to do with jw pseudo-theology).. in that determination, i obviously have a personal ideal of a "death with dignity.".

however, last night, i watched an interview wherein the commentator said "there is no dignity in death; there is only dignity in life.".

it gave me serious pause for thought.. i'd appreciate your perspectives.. craig

Steve Egner

Hey Craig,

We touched on this briefly in Hillsboro, didn't we?

my expressed (and still resolved) determination to refuse a blood transfusion (or any other organ or fluid implant from another human being) to prolong my life (for reasons that have nothing to do with JW pseudo-theology).

While certainly not related to "JW pseudo-theology, I recall that your decision is related to your belief in an afterlife.

As a Christian, I too, hope for life after this one, but I've had no supernatural confirmation up to this point. No burning bush, no spiritual rebirth, nothing. Still I hope. However, in the absence of supernatural affirmation, I must concede that this life may be all there is.

That being the case, I make a philosophy of living well, making choices that I hope will protect, preserve, and possibly even extend this life.

Those choices would include transplants and transfusions, if necessary. Beyond that, I have reservations...I watched my father decline in health, suffering intense pain, right up to the point of his death, over an 8 month period. He was bed-ridden in ICU the entire time, connected to all manner of draining and pumping tubes and machines. Even so, I believe he died with dignity, because his great struggle reflected his powerful desire to live.

And there you have it. I believe that the dignity lies in the fact that we have a choice: To what extent will each of us fight for this life?

I know for a certainty that I would not want to be preserved as in immobile, mental vegetable... but short of that, I can promise you, I won't go down easily.

Steve

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HOW do you listen? (To Music)

by Terry in

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i have a very tiny (half a cigar) flash memory iriver portable.

http://www.iriveramerica.com/.

i can offload mp3 files from my hardrive in seconds to the flash memory.

Steve Egner

My work vehicle has a pretty nice stereo... 100 watt Sony CD with Boston Accoustics speakers.

I might be listening to anything from Nirvana to Gabrielli, but one thing is for sure...

I won't hear the cell phone.

Steve

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Celtic PHOTOS California + Orchids for the Ladies

by bisous in

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ere yam are yam ruddy bunch of friggin scallywags over ere on this ere ruddy discussion board, see i come in peace and bring greetings and fair weather tidings with this prospect in mind that you may wish to peruse more landscape photography pictures of my travels throughout the ruddy usa.

california i loved and will be returning soon.

the giant redwoods were amazing.

Steve Egner

Yo Celtic!

Amazing pics.

Sorry to drift off topic, but I have to say, I just can't look at a body of water and not think about fishing.

Orchids? Pahhhhhh....

Steve

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Did anyone say anything unusual at the doors?

by badboy in

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i believe william schnell was once told that the only way to get light from a wt was to set fire to it!.

did anyone say anything of an usual matter to you while you were on the doors?.

Steve Egner

I worked pretty regularly with an old fellow named David Jackson. You never knew what he might say or do...

One morning, during my conversation with a woman at the door, Dave FARTED. Yup, that's right, a loud, flappy one. Seemed to go on forever.

Dave took advantage of the vacant pause which followed by saying, "Wherever you are, let the wind blow free. The holdin' back of the wind was the death of me. I read that on a gravestone, once."

I left the porch in hysterics.

Steve

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What you Canadians can do to help us 'liberal' Americans!

by Xander in

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from yahoo news:fri nov 5, 4:45 am et .

the canadian website "marry an american" is reaching out to help weary liberal americans who can no longer tolerate their president, asking canadians to marry someone from south of the border(marryanamerican.ca ) .